Rebecca Bass-Ching - a licensed LMFT, certified Daring Way™ coach, and host of The Unburdened Leader podcast who attends San Diego First Church of the Nazarene.

Rebecca Laird - an ordained minister in the Church of the Nazarene, a long-time spiritual director, Professor of Christian Ministry and Practice at Point Loma Nazarene University and Nazarene Theological Seminary. She is also the author of Ordained Women in the Church of the Nazarene: The First Generation.

What: The two Rebeccas dialogue about self-advocacy and navigating exclusive environments as a woman and leader in the church. They present 3 short scenarios and unpack them by looking at the institutional and psychological dynamics and helpful approaches to respond and lead strategically with integrity.
Scenario 1--Seeking sanity and change in a church with male-dominated senior leadership.
Scenario 2--How to claim a seat at the table or start another table where women are historically or systemically not invited to important conversations in our workplaces.
Scenario 3--Naming the power dynamics and setting boundaries while serving in associate or supportive roles.